Note: I do not belong to any sect.
Hazrat Ali Ibn-e-Abi Talib was the first child among the children of Arab who accepted Islam and accepted Mohammad P.B.U.H as a messenger of Allah. According to history, He was just 10 years old at that time. He had already been brought under the guardianship of Mohammad P.B.U.H when he was just 5 years old because of the economic conditions of his father. Hazrat Ali was the only person who stepped forthwhen Hazrat Mohammad P.B.U.H asked people to assist him in his invitation to Islam after 3 years of secret invitation. He grew up under the brilliant supervision of Hazrat Mohammad P.B.U.H who did not let him be attracted towards bad practices of Arab.
Due to these facts we can say that Hazrat Ali was the most learned, oldest and closest companion of Mohammad P.B.U.H.
But few years back, a controversial explanation of Qur’an chapter 4 verse 43 just knocked me by a powerful stroke and then left me in a state of mental numbness. I extremely criticized that explanation (will explain in next few paragraphs what the reasons behind my refusal of such explanation were) but moved ahead and kept continued my Islamic research. But once again few months back the same explanation from another scholar came in front but this time I was not the only one surprised. However the scholar offered his apology within few days but his apology was not about the wrong explanation, he or majority of muslims consider this as a “bitter truth” (not more than that) that shouldn’t have been spoken openly.
Actually this is not something limited to few scholars or few conformists. There is a majority of Muslims who consider the books of narrations as the main source of extracting DEEN. But at the same time everyone knows that:
- Mohammad P.B.U.H left only Qur’an and best practices of Qur’an after him. (from his last sermon)
- No one tried to compile his narrations for approximately 200 years.
- Narrations were collected when Muslims had been divided into different sects and Muslim brotherhood had been replaced by favoritism.
- Sects did not rely upon the narrators of other sects.
- It was an era when all misconceptions and wrong beliefs/practices that had been removed by Islam had started appearing again.
- Sunni Narrations were collected by six Persian scholars after 200 years of Hijrah.
- Each of them found more than hundred-thousand narrations and trashed more than 80% out of them. Imam Tirmidhi (or Tirmizi, ترمذی) trashed approx 296,885 out of an approximate collection of 300,000 narrations.
- The first exegesis (tafseer) “Tibri” that was written in 3rd century hijri was all based on such narrations. Every verse had its shan-e-nazool (the reason behind a particular revelation) associated with it. Imam Tibri collected all famous narrations and bundled them within his exegesis.
This clarification was required here because the explanation of chapter 4 verse 43 is associated with a controversial “shan-e-nazool” that is recorded in Tirmidhi (ترمذی , Tirmizi - A book of narrations from Sahah-Satta). The interpretation of that shan-e-nazool is that One day Hazrat Abdul Rehman Bin Auf invited few companions on a dinner at his place. After dinner they all drank (alcohol) and then they stood for offering maghrib’s prayer. Hazrat Ali was asked to lead the prayer but due to dizziness he made a mistake in the recitation of chapter 109 during prayer.
I know you may have reasons of its acceptance but I feel myself responsible to present here the reasons of my refusal of this interpretation. I won’t discuss the verse here in detail because it will deviate the topic, I will try to stick to the issue being discussed here.
- This incident was reported by Abad-Bin-Hameed who heard from Abdul-Rehman-Bin-Auf who heard from Abu-Jaffar-Al-Raazi who heard from Ata-Bin-Saayib who heard from Abdul-Rehman-As-Salama who heard from Hazrat Ali. Can you imagine a narration narrated like this should be considered reliable?
- Why didn’t they go to mosque for prayer?
- If they all were drunk (obviously they all would be otherwise the one who was not drunk would be leading the prayer) then who told them that Hazrat Ali made a mistake during recitation and exactly what mistake he did?
- I respect Mohammad P.B.U.H, his wives and his companions and this is the reason that I can not accept a narration that goes against Qur’an, or goes against the high moral of respectful personalities. I do not hesitate to refuse such narration. Because I can not associate such stories towards Messenger of Allah or towards his closest companions.
- It is a misunderstanding of our holy scholars that alcohol was allowed by Islam in the beginning. The alcohol was never allowed by Islam. Yes, Arabs used to drink and trade it but still there were families and people who used to consider this as a bad habit/trade. Like today, smoking is very common but still families and people consider it as a bad habit/trade and even smokers do not want their children to smoke. Islam stopped such activities gradually but that doesn’t mean that closest companions of Mohammad P.B.U.H used to perform such activities.
- A man (Hazrat Ali) who was grown up under the supervision of Mohammad P.B.U.H (as discussed in first paragraph) can not even think of such activity when his guardian (Mohammad) was inviting people towards Islam and he himself was the first man who stepped forth to assist him. Just imagine him offering prayer in this befogged mind.
- Chapter 4 Surah Nisa was revealed in Madina. According to the order it was 92nd chapter that was revealed. That means it was at least (could be more than that because I can’t find the exact year of that incident) 13th year of Hazrat Ali’s association with Islam. Were 13 years (or more than 13 years) and 91 chapters not enough for Hazrat Ali to understand the purpose of DEEN and he drank and offered prayer in that condition?
- The word used in chapter 4 verse 43 is “Sukara”. This word has broad meanings. It could be used in any context when a person is in a state when he doesn’t know or understand what he says. The reason behind this state could be anything. Like stupified by alcoholic drink, sleepiness, mental illness or unawareness. (It should now be clear that the purpose of “Sala’at” is served only when one understands what he is saying.)
- It is found in same books of narrations that Qur’an was NOT compiled in the life of Mohammad (well, I don’t believe this) and they struggled hard to compile it. Verses were some in hearts, some on woods and some on the sheepskin. And few verses of Qur’an even had been eaten by goat (unacceptable- How can I or any muslim believe this? but it is from Ibn-e-Ma’aja – a sunni book of narrations). According to this (false) concept If it was difficult to compile Qur’an after few years of Mohammad’s death then where did those shan-e-nazools come from after 200 years?
- Even date of birth, date of death and age of Mohammad P.B.U.H was not correctly recorded and muslims today are not even united on them then how an exact shan-e-nazool be remembered for a verse?
- There is a major difference between Islam and Islamic History and our holy scholars are interested more in history than Islam itself. You can never understand Islam by history because history is written by historians and they are always human-beings and they are sometime not neutral or if neutral then it might be their own perspective. Like Indo-Pak war fought in 1965 has different history in India and Pakistan. The creation of Pakistan has different history in India and Pakistan even Pakistanis have different viewpoints in that. Same people are heroes and same are villain from different perspective. God can not alter the past but historians can.
- Allah says in Qur’an chapter 4 verse 82 that “Will they not then ponder on the Qur’an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.” It is obvious from this verse that if a book is written by a man then it may have contradictions.
I hope I was able to clarify my viewpoint here. The idea behind this post is “to pointout the issue” instead of “pointing-out anyone”. The main idea behind bringing this post on blog is to make people pay attention on such controversies and then decide what they have been doing since ages. I apologize if any of my words have hurt you. I always try to pointout the nail in the shoe instead of suggesting people to visit the doctor again and again. It was good to see that our scholars have courage to say “TRUTH” (from their own perspective) but it would be better if they had used this courage in any other direction.
Allama Iqbal once said:
Jisay “Naan-E-Jaween” Bakhsha Hai TU Ne
Usay “Bazoo-E-Haider” Bhi Ataa Kar
(Whom YOU (Allah) have granted hobbies like Hazrat Ali please grant him the courage like Ali too.)
Please Think, You Can Think
!mran
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Nice artical thanks,
abbas
Great thoughts!
A true fan of your think tank
This is one of the FEW posts that I’ve read from start-to-finish, I wish we all can benefit from your point of view.
May ALLAH give you long and happy life
Jazaak ALLAH
Nice, Imran Keep it up.
Assalam-o-Alaikum;
Great post Imran bhai. The only thing i have always been thinking (confusingly) is that when all the IMAAMS had approximately kept 4 to 5 hundred AHADITH and trashed the others then why the books we get contains all of them and even the books named (SAHIH) have many contradictions. Why Muhammad (SAWW) didnt ask his companions to keep his sayings and some of the saying that were kept were being trashed by HAZRAT UMER (May ALLAH be pleased with him) taakey ummat main koi taffaraqa paida na ho. Please intimate me if i am wrong.
Thanks
Mudassir
Mudassir,
It’s a long debate that a separate post may even not cover its all aspects. When a question is raised in our mind and we strive to know its answer, it keeps us confused unless we come to know the correct answer. If you want to get rid of this confusion then spend some time in exploring both school of thoughts on this topic. But be honest during your study, show positive attitude, make efforts accordingly and then belief in Allah that HE never goes against HIS promises and HE will definitely guide you towards truth.
See, No muslim in this world can refuse the sayings of Mohammad P.B.U.H because HE was the one who introduced Qur’an to humanity and he was the best practical example of Qur’an. I do not know a single Munkir-e-Hadith who does not accept saying of Mohammad P.B.U.H, they all say that Mohammad P.B.U.H, His Great Campanions and His Great Wives can not perform an act or say something that goes against Qur’an or goes against the High Moral of their personalities. Because by accepting such narrations your DEEN does not remain reliable anymore.
A great part of Mohammad P.B.U.H’s life is preserved in Qur’an and there is no doubt about its authenticity. But the part outside Qur’an is based on History that was written long time after the death of Mohammad P.B.U.H so if there are any historical narrations that goes against the above mentioned criteria then these narrations are to be questioned and should not be attributed to the Prophet. Same applies towards the life of his wives and his companions. This criteria has to remain in front of us everytime we come across any narration.
This has been a practice of majority of muslims since centuries that they try to understand Qur’an by the help of these narrations, actually these narrations have to be understood by the help of Qur’an because Qur’an is Furqan and Meezan.
Regards,
!mran
After reading your post i have understand that what u are saying.
you have included all valid points in this blog which helps me alot.
Thanks
Assalam-o-Alaikum;
Imran Bhai, Ive downloaded the speech of the scholar and will listen to it and then i will try to give my views on it. Actually after your post i started exploring things regarding this post and the narration i found is mentioned not only in Tirmidhi but almost all the hadith and hadith related books. Now again the same question sparks in the mind WHY???
May ALLAH guide us towards the right path.
Mudassir
Assalamoallaikum,
Can you substantiate your arguments with proofs?
For example, please give me reference from “authentic” sources about the argument that “The alcohol was never allowed by Islam.”
I really appreciate your enthusiasm but that alone can’t win you any arguments, you’ll have to put forward genuine proofs.
Thanks,
Faraz
Faraz,
Why Mohammad P.B.U.H did not drink alcohol if it was allowed?
See, many things do not need direct “proofs”. Some times, other things are enough to make another thing valid or invalid.
For example, Qur’an orders you not to tell a lie or not to deceive someone so what does that mean? Does it mean that “telling a lie” or “deceiving someone” was allowed prior to that statement by Qur’an?
Slavery, Gambling, Drinking and many other activities were common in their society. If you say they were allowed BY ISLAM then perhaps you need to reform your thoughts about Islam.
Have you ever heard about “hundred lies for a lie”? To prove a wrong concept you always need more wrong concepts. Same applies to many of Islamic mistaken and misinterpreted beliefs.
Regards,
!mran
Muhammad RasooluLLAH (SAW) didn’t write a book as well… is writing a book disallowed in Islam?
Why do you think it took 22 years for the whole Qur’an to be revealed? Do you believe everyone who accepted Islam immediately gave up everything that we today know as haraam? Things like Riba, Alcohol, Adultery were so profusely a part of the arab culture that they couldn’t be abandoned altogether, but were rather done in a step-by-step manner.
Most things that are declared Haraam in Islam were done so in Medina. And there’s strong logic behind it.
In Mecca, the emphasis was on Tauheed and repulsion of Kufr. You see in the latter part of the Quran, the last Soorah’s have a very distinct tone, talking profoundly about Tauheed.
But after Hijrah, the need was to “purify” the followers so that they can be prepared for the big-battle between Islam and Kufr. Hence so late the ban on Alcohol, Riba, adultery, gambling etc.
And Quran mentions it very categorically, whatever happened in the past is forgiven. Means if someone drank alcohol “before” it was banned, he won’t be held responsible. What’s the fuss all about then?
I once again say that your enthusiasm is well-received, but your arguments are not. You’re trying to prove the right thing with the wrong arguments. Wouldn’t take you anywhere.
Thanks,
Faraz
Faraz,
It seems that you didn’t focus on what I wrote. Please read my post and last comments again. I wrote exactly what is running in your mind with a little difference.
We both agree that :
1. Such practices were part of the arab culture.
2. Even grown-up in that culture, Mohammad never involved himself in such activities.
3. Qur’an gradually stopped such activities because of its initial priorities.
But still you consider that such practices were ALLOWED BY ISLAM.
Ok we take an example.
My friend “abc” has been smoking for last 15 years and his father knows about his addiction but his father does not say anything because he is finding a better way to handle the situation. Also the current circumstances of his family require more attention. Does it mean my friend’s bad habit (smoking) is ALLOWED by his father? You can at most say that the father is SILENT on this issue.
Faraz!!
Mohammad P.B.U.H is not the founder of Islam. He was the last in the line of prophets. Allah sent messengers to every nation. Now imagine, if alcohol was allowed by Islam in the beginning of Mohammad’s era then it means it was allowed for all the nations and messengers prior to him.
Well, I include myself in all human-beings and do not consider myself or any human being an authority. There is a chance of mistakes in my arguments as well . And It is also possible that you take some different meanings by the word “allowed”.
But for me, such values are “permanent” and “constant” for all times and for all nations. There are “additional” values as well that change time to time or for different nations. “No-Alcohol” is a permanent value, if it is disallowed by Islam today then it means it was disallowed since the beginning.
Thanks,
!mran
Your example is pertinent, but sorry, incomplete!
A lot of things allowed in the previous scriptures were banned in Quran, as well as a lot of things that were banned in previous Ummahs were unbanned by Quran. You definitely have the idea of “Naasikh” and “Mansookh” and you must have your own opinion about them.
My argument hasn’t been that I consider Alcohol to be halal at any moment in Islam. But the basic theme of Halal and Haram in Islam is that, unless there’s a decree of something being Haram, it’ll be taken as halal. Everything is Halal in this world, except those few described by ALLAH in Quran and by RasooluLLAH (SAW) and later on by Ijtihaad and Ijma of Ummah…
Why I’m arguing this at length is bcuz you reject the concept of Shan-e-Nuzool altogether, yet you say Nisa is a Madni Soorah, where do you get this info from? bcuz it is written in the Mus’haf? I’m pretty sure that also comes from the same narrations that you so comprehensively reject.
I also believe that Hadhrat Ali (RA) was the first child that embraced Islam. But exactly where do you get the information about the childhood of Hadhrat Ali (RA)? From some written source? or is someone from that time still alive that is telling those things to you? Your response may be that we can reconcile them with Quran and valid sources. But that’s exactly what Bukhari, Muslim and other scholars did!
The fact that they did it 200 years after RasooluLLAH(SAW) is striking you, yet you’re trying a further 1200 years after them to verify those narrations. Do you see the absurdity of this logic?
I know for a fact that at least one of the commentors who has relished your post absolutely believes in narrations even more questionable and dubious than the one that you’ve mentioned. And you know that too, could you please care to bring some of those into our attention and discuss?
There’s been much hue and cry about Dr Israr mentioning this Hadith in a dars-e-Quran. There are a few things about that Dars that I want to mention.
1- The Dars dates back to 1997. Been telecast at least 20 times on the same channel, and 100 times on other channels. Why did this incident come to the fore now can be understood by anyone with an eye on current political situation. It’s an effort to instigate Shia’s against Sunnis and vice versa!
2- He’s explicitly said that this opinion is not his. But of various prominent Muslim scholars. He’s also mentioned that this incident has been attributed to another group of sahaba in a separate narration but the majority of scholars agree on this one.
We must accept that this particular narrated incident shows an error in Ijtihaad by some Sahaba, whether Hadhrat Ali (RA) was or wasn’t involved in it. Because no clear ban on alcohol had yet arrived by that time, they drank it, what’s the problem? I strongly believe they never drank it once it was declared Haram. And that should be the way it should be.
Faraz,
At the end of my last comments, I described you about the difference between permanent and additional values. See “No-Lie”, “No-Deception”, “No-Alcohol”, “No-Adultery”, “No-Gambling”, “No-Riba” etc are values that are “permanent” for all ages and all nations. Islam never allowed/allows and never appreciated/appreciates the violation of such values. But in contrast to these permanent values, additional values are those which could be added onto those permanent values. I don’t know what kind of concept you have in your mind about Allah and his DEEN that HE allowed alcohol in previous scriptures and then HE realised its disadvantages later and banned it. For the concept of “Nasikh” and “Mansookh”, our so-called scholars derived the wrong concept to support their wrong beliefs from verse 106 of chapter 2. It is really amusing that “mansookh” verses are still part of the Qur’an while orders of few excluded verses (like rajm”) are still practical. See the actual concept of “Nasikh” and “Mansookh”.
1. Commands which were meant for a particular time given in earlier revelations of previous prophets are superceded by other commands.
2. Commands which were to remain in force permanently but were given up, disregarded or corrupted “by the followers” of previous prophets are given again. Check also 22:52.
I think I was very clear about my viewpoint on narrations. I take history as it should be taken. I bring forward both contradictory points from the history and asks my audience which they would like to accept. For example you or majority of muslims believe that it was a pain in the neck to compile Qur’an within few years after Mohammad’s death. But you see after 200 years they remember all shan-e-nazools exactly. How? For example, you or majority of muslims believe that the verse of rajm was revealed but could not be added into Qur’an. Why? Were they not able to remember a single verse? if they were not then how do they remember lengthy and exact shan-e-nazools after 200 years? See, you can NOT extract DEEN from the history and on the basis of such conjectures.
Just answer me one thing. If Imam Bukhari or any other collectors did not collect these narrations then what would happen to your DEEN? would it be “incomplete”? You directly hit Mohammad P.B.U.H by saying so. I believe Mohammad P.B.U.H was a responsible personality and what he had to leave he left with full responsibility.
What wrong I do if I reject narrations that goes against the concept of DEEN, Concept of GOD, Teaching of Qur’an, High Moral of respectful personalities? If you consider someone “munkir-e-hadith” only because he filters out narrations on the basis of any criteria then I found such “munkireen-e-hadith” everywhere. Imam Bukhari collected “600,000″ narrations but rejected more than 90% out of them. Do you consider him “munkir-e-hadith” too and same for other collectors? I do not know a single munkir-e-hadith who refuses the saying of Mohammad P.B.U.H, they all say that if any narration goes against the criteria above then they are questionable and should not be attributed to the prophet and same applies in case of his wives and his companions.
Have you ever read “Bukhari” and “Muslim” or any book of narrations yourself? do courage sometime reading them. You would understand yourself what compelled few people to refuse the authenticity of few narrations. It is not only limited to any particular set of books, you can check the books of narrations from other sects as well.
I did not take any names in my post and wrote clearly in the end of my post that [The idea behind this post is “to pointout the issue” instead of “pointing-out anyone”.]. See, such incidents may open the eyes of a sleepy nation.
See, I objected that shan-e-nazool because a closest companion, adopted child and son-in-law of Mohammad P.B.U.H was to be involved in that activity accroding to that shan-e-nazool. I would have no objection if any distant companion or any other muslim would be involved in that activity because the use of alcohol was deep-rooted in arab culture and they used to trade the alcohol as well.
And one thing more, Allah says in Qur’an 2:219 that wine and gambling are benefitial to some degree but the damage they do is more than that benefit. Here in this verse “drinking” wine is not being discussed, this verse actually points out the “businesses” like “trading wine” and gambling in which you easily acquire good money but the results of this business in the society and for individual is not benefitial. I brought this verse here because many of our scholars present this verse to prove their viewpoint.
I hope I have explained my viewpoint in detail. I can’t change anyone’s thoughts until or unless someone tries himself. You may have your own reasons of accepting this narration but I felt my responsible to bring the reasons of my refusal in front and obviously I am also responsible to respond to the comments on my blog.
Thank you faraz for initializing a productive debate. I hope the readers will benefit from it a lot.
Regards,
Three things:
First: Is the prestige of Hadhrat Ali (RA) and Abdur Rehman Bin Auf more than other Sahaba? So it’s not a problem for you if someone else was involved?
Second: I asked a simple question, how can you verify that Hadhrat Ali (RA) grew up in RasooluLLAH’s (SAW) guidance? Is it written in the Quran? Where does all the historical reference come from?
Bonus Question: Are you against all Hadith? Or some Hadith? If all Hadith then my second question becomes very valid. You see, if you haven’t met a munkar-e-Hadith who doesn’t deny RasooluLLAH’s (SAW) sayings then you might not have met a lot of people yet.
BTW, if someone believes something was left out of the Quran due to error then he’s just plain ignorant.
Rajm was a punishment in the Shariah of Hadhrat Moosa which was continued by other prophets and RasooluLLAH (SAW), much in the same way as Qurbani on Eid-ul-Adha was the Sunnah of Hadhrat Ibrahim (AS) and is observed by us.
This would be my last response on this post. I don’t think the readers will benefit from this debate. I’m absolutely sure they would be confused by now. Debates never ever can convince anyone. So it’s advisable to keep our confusions to ourselves and not involve in such debates (which I would never have except for one comment that really riled me). What I believe is that RasooluLLAH (SAW) and Hadhrat Ali (RA) would be much happier if we followed their path, instead of debating on and on whether or not something happened.
Today, dealing in Riba is considered necessary even if ALLAH has strictly forbidden it. Everyone’s preparing his best CV just to get a job in Barclays. Cable TV is showing ALLAH knows what rubbish and people are watching it instead of going for Jamaat. Cheating, lying, flirting, dating, sexual anarchy are becoming our second nature. Do you think Hadhrat Ali (RA) would have spared any of them even if they were all chanting against this Hadith, I think he (RA) wouldn’t have spared any of them.
Remember we’re talking about the same Hadhrat Ali (RA) who spared a Kafir in battle just because he spat in his face. He spared him because he feared he would kill him not because of his love for ALLAH, but because of his rage of that Kafir. You see, he put ALLAH’s prestige before his own prestige. So today, what best we can do to make a good name for them is by following their path, taking their mission forward and trying our best to complete it. Chanting their names at one hand and blasting the Hudood of ALLAH on the other doesn’t sound too islamic to me at all.
Faraz,
It seems that you do not concentrate on my words while reading them and start planning about your response without pondering. Well. I already have given the response to your following queries in my last comments. But as you said you won’t comment again on this post that is why i feel this necessary to clarfiy your confusions here once again.
Three answers:
1. a) I did NOT say “Hazrat Ali”. I said “Closest Companion”. I brought the “criteria” infront instead of “names”. This is not about Hazrat Ali only, if it would be Hazrat Abu Bakr, Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Usman or any close companion then you would see the same reaction from my side. Read again from comments: [I would have no objection if any distant companion or any other muslim would be involved in that activity].
1. b) Close companions are those who used to spend their majority of time in the “company” of Mohammad P.B.U.H. Just imagine that company what it should have made a person in 13 years.
2. a) Read again from my comments: [I take history as it should be taken. I bring forward both contradictory points from the history and asks my audience which they would like to accept.] You can’t eat cake and have it too at the same time. You have to choose one.
2. b) I did not say that the narration should be verified from Qur’an. I said it shoud not go against a certain criteria. do you see any difference in both statements?
3. a) Please check 2. a). Also, If you know any muslim who completely rejects the sayings of Mohammad or the complete history then please do let me know. You can email me personally those names. I will appreciate. As far as I am concerned they all are “munkireen-e-muntaqali-e-hadith”. “Waza-e-Hadith (crafting of narrations)” and “Qayaas-Aarayi (Conjectures) are the reasons behind “Inkaar-e-Hadith (rejection of those crafted narrations)”.
Faraz, readers who are truth seekers do not get confused by such debates. A productive debate always helps to derive an ideal viewpoint. We should rather live with good questions than bad answers. I am also not in favor of unproductive debates (behes-baraye-behes) in which both debaters just stick to their beliefs and bring references to prove them. I always try to teach my audience something and try to learn from them as well.
I totally agree with your last two paragraphs.
Regards,
!mran
I read article and comments on this topic, i respect imran’z bhai knowledge. but i think he spread fitna inkar-e-hadith in sugar coated way, and also he can’t clarify valid questions which arose fraz, so i request to imran think again seriously on these questions because
“You Can Think”…..
Dear Mr. Farrukh,
I mostly do not approve such illogical comments on my blog because if you had read my post and my responses to Mr. Faraz, you would have never considered me spreading Fitna-e-Inkaar-e-Hadith. I will soon be writing a post specially on this topic because this has been a tradition in our society that whoever speaks against anything, which according to their LORDs is correct, they entitle the person as “Munkir-e-Hadith”. However their LORDs themselves refuse sayings of prophet whenever they like.
The same scholar who believed in this narration and referred it during his explanation of Qur’an refuses clearly the other narrations from bukhari. Should I give you proofs? Will you then call him “Munkir-e-Hadith”? You will not because he has some other “SUGER COATED WAYS” to refuse them.
Let me summarize here again.
1. For me, Mohammad P.B.U.H is the best example and no-man’s words are precious than his.
2. I know GOD (Allah) today and Qur’an because they were introduced to the nation by Mohammad P.B.U.H. How can I or anyone else refuse his sayings while all 114 chapters and 6666 verses of Qur’an were given to the humanity by him?
3. First of all, specifically, this narration is NOT a hadith or saying of prophet. This is a HISTORICAL event which was recorded after 200 years of its happening, approximately.
4. Either everyone is “Munkir-e-Hadith” OR no one is. Think about it!!
5. No one challenges the “Authority”, everyone challenges the “Authenticity” of sayings of prophet and historical events. The commands and words of Mohammad P.B.U.H were and are the authority but don’t we need to check their authenticity?
6. Some people divide the ahadith in different categories and then refuse the “Authenticity”, some people compare saying(s) of prophet with other sayings and with the whole teaching of Qur’an and then refuse the “Authenticity”. Do I need to explain the difference between “Authority” and “Authenticity” of any thing.
My brother! I can’t make everyone understand in this world. People are master in propagandas. I care about only those people who want to understand.
Regards,